Season Four Episodes

[pheral]

lmlewis said:

I gave him a possible half-brother in one story, (possible, mind you) and felt obligated to pawn him off on the witness protection program in the end, lest Mark want to take him home and have him sleeping on the couch in the gatehouse indefinitely.

oh no, lol, yes i can see that becoming an annoying problem. I guess even the show writers have that kind of problem, like when they invent Kasternack and decide they don't want him having a long-term girlfriend, so she just kinda mellts awaaaayy...

And, hey, how can I get 'thingy' to appear in my notes? I must have a very staid vocabulary. Well, I tell ya, it's 'girlthingy-cat' for me from now on

you could start inserting it in completely random places, and we'd all be tipping our heads (i nearly used the almost- rude-word again!! lmao!) in confusion trying to work out how on earth they could be naughty words.

Oh, and I also think everybody should write what they darn well please. Done it myself a couple of times.

AMEN!
Every fic i ever wrote was for me me me. I self-indulge, because why else would i enjoy writing? The others that might enjoy my fics just happen to be lucky enough to share tastes with me, lol.
(also: you should increase on those 'couple'. ;D)

owlcroft said:

Kiki has got to be the most-hated character on the show

*shivers*

I think i'm gonna have to have a stick of wood to stick between my teeth when i watch it. I have no capacity for characters like that, i might try to strangle the tv.

[lmlewis]

Wait, what about the dreaded dancing niece? We gotta put her in the top five, at least. How about the weird high school friends from central casting that show up in 'Yankee Clipper', wouldn't they get a couple of votes? Yeah, but they're sort of group-annoying, so there's a dilutional factor.

[Liz]

jadzia2000 said:

I would still love to see a long lost relative story. Mark had a daughter/son and he/she shows up looking for the person who killed his/her adoptive parents.

Nothing personal, but I don't care much for the long lost child of my favorite character routine. Particularly where it comes to Mark. I simply can't see him being that irresponsible. Oh, he might get a woman pregnant. Accidents happen. But he would never abandon the child, even if he didn't marry or stay married to the mother.

Now, Milt is another matter. Not that I don't think he is less responsible than Mark, but after Nancy's death, he might've gone off the deep end, drank and/or sleeperd around (wonder if that word will make it past the thingy machine!) and not taken the proper precautions. A one night stand with unknown consequences? I know it was done already in "I Did a No-No...", but there's some scope here. Then there's the time he was in the service and overseas, before he met Nancy! I would imagine the extreme heat and rot factor of the Pacific Front would melt and deteriorate condoms (will THAT word make it through?) which is why you get all those war babies despite all those lovely and engrossing Army films about staying clean for the red, white and blue.

[Liz]

okay, they tried to convert w-ho-red but allowed condom. Interesting selections.

[cheride]

owlcroft said:

Kiki has got to be the most-hated character on the show (not forgetting Weed Randall here but he's crazy, she's evil) except for possibly Angie's two kids. If I had to vote, I'd vote to kill off the kids because there are two of them as opposed to just one Kiki, but it'd be a tough call.

Really? You'd put the kids up there with Kiki? Really? Ah, c'mon, they're just kids, Owl. They don't mean to be sickeningly annoying, they just don't know any better yet. (And besides, their mom's not exactly an A-1 winner herself)

And I don't even really hate Weed. You're right; he's just crazy.

But Kiki, man, she's just plain ol' downright manipulatively cold. Hard to find much redemption in that.

[jadzia2000]

I figured this kid was about 18 or 19 and living in a dorm in college. And besides, Mark didn't know his gf was preggers to begin with.

the gf's parents moved away to avoid any embarassment that their precious daughter would get messed up with a guy like Mark. maybe her family was wealthy. Anyways. after the baby was born, the baby was adopted by another well-to-do family and when the kid was about 16, they were murder by cody, and the kid went on a hunt to find the killer. The kid found out about being adopted and tracked down the mother, who wanted nothing to do with the kid. However, the mother released who the father was, and the kid tracked down Mark, who coincidentally happens to live with a judge to help nab bad guys.

As for what happens in the relationship, well....Mark would never abandon the kid the way his own father did, so......mark would keep in contact with the kid, but since the kid lives on the college dorms, it helps to relieve the situation about where the kid fits in at gull's way.

Just my 2cents.

[lmlewis]

liz said:

Now, Milt is another matter. Not that I don't think he is less responsible than Mark, but after Nancy's death, he might've gone off the deep end, drank and/or sleeperd around (wonder if that word will make it past the thingy machine!) and not taken the proper precautions. A one night stand with unknown consequences? I know it was done already in "I Did a No-No...", but there's some scope here. Then there's the time he was in the service and overseas, before he met Nancy! I would imagine the extreme heat and rot factor of the Pacific Front would melt and deteriorate condoms (will THAT word make it through?) which is why you get all those war babies despite all those lovely and engrossing Army films about staying clean for the red, white and blue.

Oh. Liz, that's gotta be the best excuse ever--'My device wasn't combat-certified.' ROTFLOL (note the careful substitution of a thingy-proof term, even though latex personal protection appers to be thingy-exempt.) Though, in fact, there is a great deal of truth to that--never carry those thingys in your hip pocket where they are subject to prolonged body heat.

[pheral]

liz said:

I would imagine the extreme heat and rot factor of the Pacific Front would melt and deteriorate condoms (will THAT word make it through?)

Ha, it's funny, throughout this thread i've had that in mind as the only way i could accept Mark having had a child he didn't know about - malfunctioning contraception! I was wondering whether they were made substandard when they first came out, but don't know enough about the history (it's not the kind of thing you have discussions about, i guess ).
I can also imagine him trying to argue his innocence to the judge with that kind of information, and the judge having absolutely none of it. Lol. Poor Mark, he always seems to be doing right by his own valid set of morals, but missing the point in the big legal picture!

[Liz]

cheride said:

Really? You'd put the kids up there with Kiki? Really? Ah, c'mon, they're just kids, Owl. They don't mean to be sickeningly annoying, they just don't know any better yet. (And besides, their mom's not exactly an A-1 winner herself)

As much as I hate Kiki, and God knows I do, I can at least watch that episode. Those d**n kids inspire me to search for an Uzi. It's like the Family Affair kids on meth. I can't even fast forward through that episode, I hate it so much. At least with Kiki, I get Mark racing.

[Liz]

By the way, I didn't put the astericks in! LOL Hey, it beats the insert of a thingy.

[blk95ta]

what about one where we find out that mark was sleeping with warren and they were gonna have a kid, wouldnt that make hardcastle the kid's great uncle or something? and if they got married, that would not techinically make mark and milt related but he would be like an uncle-in-law if such a thing existed...

i would have loved to see milt's vette return for an episode, maybe someone steals it and they have to find it. or something like that...

[owlcroft]

Mark having an affair with Warren? The mind boggles.

[cheride]

owlcroft said:

Mark having an affair with Warren? The mind boggles.

Yeah, I agree. But that being said, I do think it would be fun to see a little bit more of that dynamic of Mark dating someone in Milt's family. HC being the overprotective uncle (or whoever) and poor McC on the receiving end. I thought he was awfully cute being afraid of "Uncle Miltie". But then again, (can you tell I have a few conflicting emotions about this? ) I was sort of annoyed with the idea that HC would think that McC wouldn't be "good enough" for Warren. As if.

[jadzia2000]

Milt always seemed to have an issue with Mark having any kind of a releationship with someone he's someone close to. Remember he was against Mark being with Christy. He even referred Mark as a "Mug" and really meant it, too.

[lmlewis]

Well, I sort of see it as these two guys who sit there and compare notes, in rough outline form, about their relative successes with women (see 'The Black Widow', and, oh yes, 'Once Again With Vigorish' where they did it as an almost-parody, with BK practically laughing into the camera), and then it comes home to roost, with McC 'hitting' on someone that the judge takes a personal interest in, and, suddenly, good heavens, he's a wolf, for Pete's sake, and Hardcastle must defend the flock.

Whether this happens in real life between guys who are friends, or is just a tradition in fiction, I have no idea.