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Post by owlcroft on Sept 7, 2006 12:30:22 GMT -5
If there had been a fourth season, assuming we keep Mark in law school, but chasing the bad guys on weekends, what would some of the plots be like?
Would there be fewer car chases? Would Sonny show up again? The Aunts or Arthur Farnell? Would Frank need some help cleaning out his attic? Any ideas you wanted to see explored?
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Post by Liz on Sept 8, 2006 18:33:13 GMT -5
If there had been a fourth season, assuming we keep Mark in law school, but chasing the bad guys on weekends, what would some of the plots be like? Would there be fewer car chases? Would Sonny show up again? The Aunts or Arthur Farnell? Would Frank need some help cleaning out his attic? Any ideas you wanted to see explored? I'm convinced that the Aunts would definitely made a reapearance. I think Farnell might have also, but more than likely he would have appeared during Season 5. Plot lines? Hmm, a term paper selling ring that goes deadly (although Law & Order did something along that line); a serial date rapist -- maybe even the ex-con suspected of it; a humorous episode where the Judge does some teaching, dressed in his best ratty sneakers and Hawaiian shirt, and realizes that there seem to be two types of students in his class: suckups and smartasses -- and that Mark is a girl thingycat compared with some of the Warren wannabes... And... The return of Kathy Kasternak and true love...or Christy Miller, if you prefer. Just no Kiki, please.
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Post by Liz on Sept 8, 2006 18:37:12 GMT -5
Don't ask me why, but everytime I write "puss-y-cat", the board changes it to girl thingycat. I didn't know there was a V-chip on the board!! ;D
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Post by lmlewis on Sept 10, 2006 21:58:07 GMT -5
And if you ask me, the former sounds more innocent than the latter ;-)
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Post by lmlewis on Sept 10, 2006 22:37:43 GMT -5
If there had been a fourth season, assuming we keep Mark in law school, but chasing the bad guys on weekends, what would some of the plots be like? Would there be fewer car chases? Would Sonny show up again? The Aunts or Arthur Farnell? Would Frank need some help cleaning out his attic? Any ideas you wanted to see explored? I'd foresee major conflict based on Hardcastle really going 'lone' on the Lone Ranger thing. Mark leaves a wisp of thread on the edge of the file cabinet drawer to see if the judge is sneaking down there while he's away at class. Sonny shows up again, like a bad penny. This time he's finally hooked up with the witness protection program, but he wants to have one more fling before it's off to work in the Fort Wayne post office. Mark suggests a camping trip, maybe at least partly to test his sincerity. Sonny is appalled by the idea, but decides to be a good sport . . . oh, and he forgot to mention that he's going into hiding because there's a contract out on him. Mark is on the moot court committee, organizing a competition. The judge, of course, gets drafted to be a judge. One of Mark's fellow organizers is hard-charging, insulting, and driven to succeed. A student who is working with her basically snaps. Bad things ensue, perhaps a hostage situation. Oh, and I've always wanted to do a story about anthrax. Then, of course, it happened in real life. Darn it. Key players in important cases are dying mysteriously at points in trials where a mistrial must ensue. It's much subtler than kidnapping and threatening witnesses. No one is exactly sure if it's foul play, or who will be next. Guess who volunteers for another temporary judgeship? Mark finally figures out the real reason the judge never talks about Tommy. Teddy Hollins witnesses a kidnapping and nobody believes him. Mark's too busy to listen, but somebody else finally does, and then Teddy disappears. That'd be a start.
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Post by pheral on Sept 11, 2006 3:52:22 GMT -5
Good god those ep ideas sound fantastic. Let me know when you've finished writing them this afternoon.
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Post by owlcroft on Sept 11, 2006 13:07:35 GMT -5
Me, too! And please include one about the aunts, while you're at it! Maybe they take a cruise through the islands and meet up with someone in San Rio who just happens to know the judge? And Sonny can be the lounge singer on the ship. Much hilarity ensues when a passenger is found dead and Sonny is the suspect!
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Post by lmlewis on Sept 11, 2006 17:57:35 GMT -5
Good god those ep ideas sound fantastic. Let me know when you've finished writing them this afternoon. Um, can I at least have until the weekend? ;-) But glad you guys like 'em. I kinda thought I didn't have any ideas left. Sonny and Mark camping is definitely on the board now, and, Owl, the big reunion cruise with Sonny standing over a dead body, whoa, that's Gullsway Collective material, if you ask me. Have we set you up for your implants yet? The Hive awaits.
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Post by jadzia2000 on Sept 11, 2006 19:05:52 GMT -5
I would still love to see a long lost relative story.
Mark had a daughter/son and he/she shows up looking for the person who killed his/her adoptive parents.
Martin Cody could come back as the killer.
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Post by pheral on Sept 12, 2006 4:15:38 GMT -5
Good god those ep ideas sound fantastic. Let me know when you've finished writing them this afternoon. Um, can I at least have until the weekend? ;-) certainly not. Mark had a daughter/son and he/she shows up looking for the person who killed his/her adoptive parents. Can i vote for that being anything *but* a son/daughter? Love thebasic idea, but ...and I think i might be the only one... i personally cannot stand shows where they bring in a child of one of the main characters. It leads to so much whingeing family-relationship stuff that i simply can't stand... does Mark have any brothers or sisters? The relative could be a niece/nephew or something, meaning one of Mark's siblings had been killed or something? Just desperately tossing out ideas in the hopes you'll get distracted and forget about the son/daughter idea.
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Post by cheride on Sept 12, 2006 5:59:53 GMT -5
Mark had a daughter/son and he/she shows up looking for the person who killed his/her adoptive parents. Can i vote for that being anything *but* a son/daughter? Love thebasic idea, but ...and I think i might be the only one... i personally cannot stand shows where they bring in a child of one of the main characters. It leads to so much whingeing family-relationship stuff that i simply can't stand... does Mark have any brothers or sisters? The relative could be a niece/nephew or something, meaning one of Mark's siblings had been killed or something? Just desperately tossing out ideas in the hopes you'll get distracted and forget about the son/daughter idea. Well, I'm pretty sure that it's too late to conjure up any siblings for Mark, but I'd vote for cousin, or really good friend growing up, or anything along those lines. For myself, I have no general concerns with children of main characters, but I do have something of a concern with children of Mark. LML did point out to me the other day that in RL people often times repeat the mistake they wish most to avoid (not because she was planning any illegitimate kids for the boy or anything, I'm pretty sure, but just as a way to say it's not like he would be growing a second head or something; it could happen.) Anyway, RL scenarios aside, I see Mark as a pretty conscientious type of guy all around-- a decent and respectful man. And if you add to that the idea that he's been traumatized himself by being abandoned by his father, I'm going to have a really hard time wrapping my head around the idea that there was ever a time he was out in the world creating life and then just leaving it behind. Now, I know situations could be created whereby he never knew the child existed, etc, but, what I really think is that the boy just never would put himself in the position where it might happen; too easy to control, and remember, I think he's the conscientious type. Oh, but I can hear you now saying, "But what about Kiki? Must've been having unprotected sex with her, right?" Yeah, but I don't think so. I mean, I know he thought she got pregnant and all, but what I think is that the girl was using her own birth control and then just lied about it failing. Wench. But that's a whole other tangent, so don't even get me started on that. ;D Anyway, whew, talk about your tangents. All I really wanted to say was, "I agree; let's make it something other than a long lost child." Well, gee, that was pretty simple.
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Post by pheral on Sept 12, 2006 7:40:46 GMT -5
Well, I'm pretty sure that it's too late to conjure up any siblings for Mark Ah, good, i'd really got the impression of him as an only child. Glad to hear that was kept that way through the series. I am totally with you there, and you put it perfectly too. He can have his childish moments, just like the judge (i don't think either one of them is any more immature than the other really!), but basically he's that kind of person that *would* think ahead in most situations, to consequences and so on. And as you say, the fact that he's felt abandoned through a lot of his life would probably impress quite strong feelings on him about that. I can tell that i'm going to be raging through the ep with this Kiki woman. I hate her already and i have no idea what happened!
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Post by lmlewis on Sept 12, 2006 11:46:54 GMT -5
Yup, exactly. And I know I did say that thing about the contrary nature of human behavior--that we sometimes wind up adopting the traits of our parents that we most railed about--but, on further thought, I think that applies more to emotional qualities, not active behaviors like deciding to have an unprotected fling.
There's always the 'out' of the partner who lies (ala Kiki, though she was even lying two layers deep) but, man, then you've got this character for whom your main character should feel some emotional responsibility. You either have to kill him/her off, or you're stuck with 'em for then on. I gave him a possible half-brother in one story, (possible, mind you) and felt obligated to pawn him off on the witness protection program in the end, lest Mark want to take him home and have him sleeping on the couch in the gatehouse indefinitely.
And, hey, how can I get 'thingy' to appear in my notes? I must have a very staid vocabulary. Well, I tell ya, it's 'girlthingy-cat' for me from now on
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Post by lmlewis on Sept 12, 2006 11:57:23 GMT -5
Oh, and I also think everybody should write what they darn well please. Done it myself a couple of times.
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Post by owlcroft on Sept 12, 2006 13:30:15 GMT -5
I can tell that i'm going to be raging through the ep with this Kiki woman. I hate her already and i have no idea what happened! [/quote] Kiki has got to be the most-hated character on the show (not forgetting Weed Randall here but he's crazy, she's evil) except for possibly Angie's two kids. If I had to vote, I'd vote to kill off the kids because there are two of them as opposed to just one Kiki, but it'd be a tough call.
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